Ok, this is a more advanced article. If you are a beginner and just starting off with internet marketing, then this article on Multiple C Class IP hosting (also known as SEO hosting in some circles) is not an issue that’s likely an issue that you need to concern yourself with
Now SEO hosting is an topic that’s starting to gain a lot of popularity with SEO’s. I figured I’d pop out this article to help dymystify the topic a bit for you folks.
So who may be interested in SEO hosting? People with a lot of websites!
If you have a shit load of websites (especially the mini site variety) or you want to build your own personal link network (aka Build My Rank, Unique Article Wizard, Backlink Solutions, etc.), then Multiple C Class IP’s are important.
Keep in mind that I’m not talking about just having different hosting IP addresses. You can have websites on different IP’s but still have the same C-Class part of the IP, and thus still on the same server.
Now first here’s the basic premise behind multiple C-Class IP’s. SEO’s (including myself) claim that Google starts devaluing multiple incoming backlinks that come from the same C Class IP.
The C Class IP basically is the IP number that signals an IP address is on a completely different server. So, this is an IP: 32.434.545.545 and the bolded section is the C Class part of the ip. If you want more information about this, you can read some comments here.
The idea many SEO’s have is that if you get say 10 links coming from www.dummydomainX.com pointing to www.dummydomainZ.com, then after a certain number of links from dummydomainX, the link “value” goes down. So if there was only 1 link coming from dummydomainX, that link would contain the most “link juice.” Each additional link after the first would carry less and less link juice. So sending 100 links from dummydomainX to dummydomainZ and the majority of those links may end up pretty worthless in terms of ranking value.
The logic behind this who idea is that links coming from completely different servers mimic the natural backlink patterns. Links don’t look like they are the product of an evil SEO if they derive from different servers. If a lot of links are coming from the same C-Class IP, that’s a big indication that something fishy is going on, in terms of link building.
Note (in case you are still confused) that different C class IP’s mean that website are on (and treated by google as such) completely different servers. If you have two websites, each on a unique C Class IP, there will be no link (in theory) between each of those sites. A reverse IP check on one of those sites won’t show the other site on the same server. This means you can put some “distance” between those two sites.
Now you can simply and easily get different C-Class IP’s by utilizing different webhosts (say by having one site on say dreamhost.com, another website on hostgator, and maybe another on bluehost.com. These 3 sites will then be completely unique from each other and will appear to google to be owned by different people. If you were to interlink them, you would get more value from each link then if they were all on the same hosting server.)
You can have multiple C Class IP Hosting by having a ton of different hosting accounts with different hosts, but this is awkward and expensive (try managing your websites when you have your websites spread across 10 different hosts!). The solution to this inconvenience is to look at dedicated multi c class ip hosting services. These seo hosting services basically give you the power of multiple (C-Class) IP’s all from a single interface. The number of different C-class IP’s you get depend on how much you are willing to pay. The baseline price is about 4 bucks per unique C Class IP. This can really start to add up if you want. But even just having 10 unique C-Class IP’s give you a lot more backlinking potential than simply having a single C-Class IP hosting account (like the standard hostgator reseller account). Keep in mind that you pay more money for SEO Hosting than you do for regular hosting. 10 unique C Class IP Hosting may cost you anywhere from 40-60 bucks a month. You can get some really “big” hosting packages that support hundreds of unique C Class IP’s, but you will likely never utilize this many unique C Classes unless you are running a backlink network for pay customers or for seo clients.
Now is there actually any sort of proof that all this seo hosting stuff works? The whole concept is pretty controversial and you’ll find a lot of people calling bullshit. However, I call bullshit on those calling bullshit.
Pretty much all the decent backlink networks that are effective (such as Build My Rank) utilize Multi C class IP hosting for their hundreds of blogs.
I’ve personally seen the difference myself. I’ve had say a dozen websites on the same server pointing to another websits on the same server. I then moved those dozen websites to different C class domains and saw an immediate jump in the rankings of my money site by about 10 spots within a week.
These example are a far cry from “proof” of course, but in my opinion, multi C-class IP hosting makes a big difference in certain cases.
When you think about it, it’s kind of logical really. How often in the natural linking structure does a website keep linking over and over to another website (a pattern that occures when you start linking a bunch of sites on the same server together)? Not that much usually. It’s usually one link and that’s it. Or maybe if two blogs share the same niche space and are on friendly terms, then an occasional link between sites will be passed along here and there. But certainly, it’s highly unnatural for a bunch of the sames sites on the same server to start bombarding each other with links. The chances of this happening “naturally” on the web are pretty slim to be honest.
So multiple links coming from the same source usually mean one thing: someone is trying to engineer links. That could be by writing a lot of little article on a content farm (ezinearticles.com/hubpages) for links, or maybe trying to spam links from a single domain to another site. Or one could be trying to take a network of websites on the same server to be used as a backlink farm. Google, I’m sure,watches for this in their algorithm and will start to devalue those links. Maybe not the first or second link, but certainly if there are more than a handful of links from the same C Class IP space, link juice will start to be discounted.
SO What Does All This Nangly Fangly Really Mean?
1) The more links you get coming from the same website, the less effective each link becomes. Pretty easy to understand.
Say Website A on Server A links 100 times to Website B on Server C. Both sites are on different servers (different C CLass IPs). The first handful of links from Website A pass the most link juice. The rest of the links give less and less linkjuice. Basically you get diminishing returns.
I always get asked at this point if sending a bunch of links from a website like ezinearticles.com to a bunch of your domains on the same server (a very common scenario for the average internet marketer) means that after the first couple ezines/hubs/whatever if your links start counting less and less.
In my opinion, no. Multiple links from say ezinearticles to the same domain, then yes you start getting less and less link juice. But links to different domains, even though thouse domains share the same server space, and the link still carries the origional weight.
Now for a bit of my own theory here. In my opinion, sites with a lot of authority (say hubpages) can pass a lot of link juice to different domains on the same server. I don’t necessarly think that if you have 10 websites on the same C-Class IP and you send 5 links from hubpages to each of your websites that after the first couple of hub links, you are getting barely any link juice. I think this applies more from domains. So 100 links from hubpages.com to 1 single domain is probably not going to be that much more effective than say 10 links from hubpages.com to that domain. But 100 links from hubpages.com (which come from say Server A) to 10 different domains sharing the same serverspace (say Server B) and each hubpage link will count for a lot more to each domain than if you sent all 100 to the same domain. Make sense?
2) The more links passed between the same C Class server space between different domains, the less effective each link becomes.
This means that Website A that’s on Server A and Website B on Server A, and Website C on Server A all send say 20 links each linking to Website D on Server A (the same server). Since all links are coming from websites on the same server, the value of all the links, in this case 60 links, is GREATLY reduced. Google treats all these links from Website A, B,C as coming from the SAME website even though they are different websites because they share the same serverspace (c class IP).
Having your sites spread accross different C Class IP’s would ensure that every link coming from each website you have would be counted as a unique link. This gives maximum link power. Why send 100 dilluted links from 100 websites on the same server, when you can throw those 100 websites on different C-Class IP’s and get 100 “fresh” links? You are getting a LOT more link juice.
Anyways, if I’ve lot you guys you can find a lot of information about the topic on online. But the general consensus is among discerning SEO’s is that Multiple C Class IP’s can be effective — especially if you want to A) hide your network of sites from prying eyes and B) to maximize link juice between your interlinked sites and C) to protect your sites from a google deindex
Now of course, you need more than C-Class IP’s to hide your sites from say google. You need to make sure there are nothing that will give your sites away to google. That means, you can’t have all your sites registered to the same person (Google is a registrar and can access your WHOIS information, even if you have privacy enabled). You also can’t have the same Google Analytics and Adsense accounts attached to the sites spread across the different IP’s. Putting on adsense on all your sites, even if they are mixed up among many different C Class IP’s gives google a clear footprint that you own all these sites.
Truth be told, just having different C Class IP’s is not enough. You also need ALL of the following to hide your sites from google:
1. Unique C Class IP’s — Different servers attached to the IP, basically
2. Different Nameservers for each IP — having a bunch of unique C Class IP’s with the same nameserver pretty much destroy the seo link value of the C Class. It’s a dead giveaway to google that if a bunch of unique C Class IP’s share the same nameserver, they are all on the same server.
3. Different RDNS for each C Class IP — most people have not heard of this, but it’s not as complicated as you think. Basically, when you ping and IP address the associated domain will also appear. That is the RDNS. So you can have a bunch of C class ips, but if they all share the same RDNS, you can simply ping the IP’s and the same domain pops up for every one. This basically means all your different IP’s will be treated as the same as if they were on the same server, in terms of backlink juice.
Yes folks, that means that just having a unique C Class IP is not enough. In fact, if you take one of the many multiple IP hosting services available online, there is a good chance you are getting ripped off and not getting what you think you are. Some services will offer you different C CLass IP’s but will not offer different RDNS and Nameservers for each IP. They don’t do this because it requires having extra IP’s to be used just for these. Most seo hosting services (as multiple C Class IP services are called on the web), don’t offer different RDNS and different nameservers per C Class, which make your seo backlink value no different than if you just hosting everything on the same server!
Why You May Want Multiple C Class IP Hosting
So back to my question, is Multiple C Class IP Hosting worth the extra cost?
- If you have a lot of websites, then yes.
- If you want to start your own personal backlink network, then yes.
- If you have a bunch of sites and you want to interlink them together for maximum link juice, then yes.
- If you want to hide your network of sites from google and other prying eyes, then yes.
Why You Don’t Need or Want Multiple Class IP Hosting
- Not enough websites — Let me be clear here. If you have a couple websites, then you don’t need any sort of SEO Hosting service. This service is only for people with a lot of sites who want to maximize link juice when they interlink.
- You share server space with evil — And for the record, most people who actually end up using SEO Hosting are evil SEO’s of some sort. That means you could very well be sharing your server space for that C-Class IP with a bunch of spammers, blackhat SEO’s, and other people really trying to game google. Probably NOT the best company to share your server space with if your sites are quality, money making authority websites. But if you are simply trying to build your own link network, then there should not be an issue here.
- It’s expensive – SEO hosting is always more expensive than regular hosting. Sometimes 2-3 times more expensive in fact. The more C Class IP’s you get, the more money you pay.
- You need to utilize the IP’s – just because you have dozens of different C Class IP’s available to you doesn’t mean you are going to see any benefit from this. You have to like, utilize the space with different domains, link them together in such a way that your money sites get the max link juice, and backlink each domain. There is some real work involved if you want to take advantage seo hosting. Don’t think this is a magic pill for instant rankings.
Recommended SEO Hosting Services
Now there are a bunch of so called seo hosting services (aka multiple c class ip hosting) online. Most of them, frankly, are complete bullshit. I’ve only tried a couple of them myself, so I can’t give you a laundry list of “the best seo hosting” just yet. I’m going to try and put a list together soon, but for now, I can tell you two services that you should avoid:
Seo-host.com, is run by a bunch of scammers that don’t offer any customer support and don’t honour their refund policy. They’ve got a ton of bad reviews online (I’m going to add one of my own very soon). They are the cheapest in terms of pricing that I’ve seen and their interface is pretty decent. But their customer service is the pits. Got forbid you if your sites go down or you have some sort of problem – you won’t get anything solved with these guys. And if you opt to try and get a refund within their 30 day refund window, they won’t honour it.
This is actually run by hostgator.com – one of the best hosting companies on the web right now. That means they actually offer like the best customer support on the web. However, you pay a premium for each C-Class IP and they do not offer unique RDNS for each C-Class IP, making them pretty much useless for SEO purposes. Because of this, avoid them.
More seo hosting reviews to come in the future…
Final Word About SEO Hosting/Multiple C Class IP’s
Sometimes we can make things more complicated than they really are. I will say you don’t need to try to game the search engines with SEO tricks to rank high. High quality, unique content that offers real value to the readers, consistent networking/marketing of your website, and understand of SEO, and plain old fashion time are all you need to get some real traffic.
SEO Hosting is a useful tool, but only for some. Don’t let anyone tell you that you need multiple C Class IP’s to rank your sites. It’s simple an option for people with a lot of sites who want to get the most link “bang” for their buck.
Note, if you are looking at Multiple C Class IP’s, then it’s worth reading my article about how to create a link farm, which is one of the main uses for having multiple c class ip hosting.
You should also read up my Jan 2012 follow up SEO Hosting reviews article.